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    Benny not that popular with Catholics


    by earwicga
    14th September, 2010 at 9:47 am    

    Via the BBC:

    Thousands of tickets remain unsold for events during the visit of the Pope, who arrives in Scotland on Thursday.

    The largest organised event is an open-air Mass at Bellahouston Park in Glasgow on the opening day of Pope Benedict XVI’s trip to the UK.

    The capacity has been reduced to 80,000 after a slow take-up of tickets.

    Dioceses in England and Wales have also reported thousands of unfilled places for a London vigil and the service to beatify Cardinal Newman in Birmingham.

    Can’t think why a man who enables pedophiles and rapists, excommunicates nuns for saving lives, condemns equality, and denies reproductive justice to women isn’t worth £25.


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    1. sunny hundal

      Blogged: : Benny not that popular with Catholics http://bit.ly/9rApkQ


    2. earwicga

      RT @sunny_hundal: Blogged: : Benny not that popular with Catholics http://bit.ly/9rApkQ




    1. Kismet Hardy — on 14th September, 2010 at 12:26 pm  

      What does the Pope actually do? I don’t mean live on stage (although I know he likes his breakdancers), I mean at all?

    2. earwicga — on 14th September, 2010 at 12:38 pm  

      He sings King of the Castle and models pointy hats. They are two of the core roles of the job description (strangely omitted here). Sure you can come up with some more Kismet :)

    3. Kismet Hardy — on 14th September, 2010 at 12:54 pm  

      Dunno much about him other than he had good schooling.

      He’s really old, right? Like most old performers playing at gigs, he should just stick to the old classics:

      Two Little Boys

      Priests Just Wanna Have Nun

      Papal Don’t Preach

      And if he turns out be shit and people throw eggs at him…

      (insert eggs benedict punchline here)

    4. Kismet Hardy — on 14th September, 2010 at 2:41 pm  

      So anyhoo, Benny used to make me laugh so much.

      ‘Women spend their whole lives trying to change you, then turn around one day and say: you’re not the same man I married.’

      And when he’d break his glassed and read the LADIES sign as LADDIES and walk into the girl’s toilets!

      Funny, funny.

    5. me — on 14th September, 2010 at 2:59 pm  

      I like the Pope
      The Pope smokes Dope

    6. douglas clark — on 14th September, 2010 at 3:02 pm  

      From earwicga’s link:

      Archbishop Nichols said he expected 54,000 to 55,000 people to attend the 60,000-capacity event, which requires a “pilgrim pack” costing up to £25 for entry.

      Pilgrim pack?

      55k by £25 equals.

      £1,375,000 smackers.

      Hope he’s donating that to the police effort to keep him safe.

    7. Dalbir — on 14th September, 2010 at 3:02 pm  

      What? Benny Hill isn’t popular with the Catholics anymore?

      Why not!

    8. ?????? — on 15th September, 2010 at 2:11 am  

      ????????????

    9. Ravi Naik — on 15th September, 2010 at 6:57 pm  

      And here we have the Pope’s aid saying that the UK is a Third World country because of all the “Third World” people he saw working at Heathrow.

    10. earwicga — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:06 pm  

      You couldn’t make it up! Apparently the aide is staying home with gout, obviously not caused by good living.

      Very good piece by Colm O’Gorman related to Benny’s visit: http://colmogorman.com/?p=708

    11. johnbarnes — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:11 pm  

      Ravi, do you have a link to what exactly said or are you just regurgitating what the BBC said? You’ve provided no context to that quote which could mean anything.

      Earwicga, I don’t think 80,000 people is an insignificant number and your link to the excommunication of Nun doesn’t even support your own argument

    12. earwicga — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:15 pm  

      johnbarnes - the link is in Ravi’s comment. Try opening your eyes a little wider.

      This may do it for you :D

    13. johnbarnes — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:20 pm  

      Earwicga

      The link is to a BBC summary of the article, it doesn’t contain the actual text of the article itself so we have no idea of the context in which the comments were made.

      The link you have posted refers to something about a Mass taking place in Soho and doesn’t seem to be relevant

    14. Ravi Naik — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:32 pm  

      Very good piece by Colm O’Gorman related to Benny’s visit: http://colmogorman.com/?p=708

      I enjoyed the article, many thanks, earwicga.

      Ravi, do you have a link to what exactly said or are you just regurgitating what the BBC said? You’ve provided no context to that quote which could mean anything.

      It is all over the news, John. You are right that saying that the UK is a 3rd world country can mean a lot of things. The Cardinal in question made this comment in an interview for a German online magazine. He actually said: “When you land at Heathrow you think at times you have landed in a Third World country”. The worst part is that this remark was later clarified, where it was said that the Cardinal was referring specifically to the diversity he found at Heathrow, where one concludes that the presence of non-whites make this country a 3rd World country. I am shocked to find a German making this sort of remarks. :)

    15. johnbarnes — on 15th September, 2010 at 9:46 pm  

      Ravi
      I’m sorry I don’t agree. Yes, I really do think that saying that “The UK could be considered a third world country” is a comment that could be mis-interpreted.
      Also you say that he said this in relation to the diversity in the UK but the only paragraph that would support this in the BBC article you post is attributed to ‘Vatican Sources’ which could mean anything. I don’t think you can draw any of the conclusions you appear to do from the BBC report.
      The BBC has form giving false impression over Church pronouncements for example when it claimed that that the Pope stated that Gays were more of a danger to the planet then the destruction of the rainforest, when in the speech in where he was supposedly to have made these comments made no reference to homosexuality at all.

    16. persephone — on 16th September, 2010 at 12:15 am  

      Ravi @ 14 thanks for the link - interesting article

    17. RickB — on 16th September, 2010 at 2:16 am  

      Johnbarnes @ 15, nice lawyerly try with the ‘no reference to homosexuality’, here is the english translation of Pope Benedict XVI’s speech to the Curia in Rome 22/12/08 provided by Rt. Rev Michael Campbell OSA, Coadjutor Bishop of Lancaster:-

      “Since faith in the Creator is an essential part of the Christian Credo, the Church cannot and should not confine itself to passing on the message of salvation alone. It has a responsibility for the created order and ought to make this responsibility prevail, even in public. And in so doing, it ought to safeguard not only the earth, water, and air as gifts of creation, belonging to everyone. It ought also to protect man against the destruction of himself. What is necessary is a kind of ecology of man, understood in the correct sense.
      When the Church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and woman and asks that this order of creation be respected, it is not the result of an outdated metaphysic. It is a question here of faith in the Creator and of listening to the language of creation, the devaluation of which leads to the self- destruction of man and therefore to the destruction of the same work of God. That which is often expressed and understood by the term “gender”, results finally in the self-emancipation of man from creation and from the Creator. Man wishes to act alone and to dispose ever and exclusively of that alone which concerns him. But in this way he is living contrary to the truth, he is living contrary to the Spirit Creator. The tropical forests are deserving, yes, of our protection, but man merits no less than the creature, in which there is written a message which does not mean a contradiction of our liberty, but its condition. The great Scholastic theologians have characterised matrimony, the life-long bond between man and woman, as a sacrament of creation, instituted by the Creator himself and which Christ – without modifying the message of creation – has incorporated into the history of his covenant with mankind. This forms part of the message that the Church must recover the witness in favour of the Spirit Creator present in nature in its entirety and in a particular way in the nature of man, created in the image of God. Beginning from this perspective, it would be beneficial to read again the Encyclical Humanae Vitae: the intention of Pope Paul VI was to defend love against sexuality as a consumer entity, the future as opposed to the exclusive pretext of the present, and the nature of man against its manipulation.”
      http://www.catholic-ew.org.uk/Catholic-Church/media_centre/press_releases/press_releases_2008/pope_benedict_xvi_s_speech_to_the_curia_in_rome_22_dec

      It’s polite, it’s in Benny’s standard theological decoration but it is nonetheless saying sexualities and genders other than straight men and women need to be defended against as well as environmental crises (hey but word on sexuality being exploited by consumerism). Now you either were unaware of the actual text and were repeating some rote defence or you knew it and were trying it on. Either way it’s not the most good faith way to proceed in one’s defence of the Holy See.

    18. damon — on 16th September, 2010 at 7:40 pm  

      Earwicga - you won’t want to read these.

      Crusade against the pope: an Inquisition-in-Reverse
      The campaigners against the pope’s visit have more in common with the fanatical Inquisitors of old than with Enlightened liberal humanists.

      http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9582/

      What really gets their goat about Catholicism?
      The current Catholic-baiting springs from the cultural elite’s suspicion of anyone who, unlike them, has strong beliefs

      http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9584/

    19. earwicga — on 16th September, 2010 at 8:43 pm  

      You’re right damon, I don’t.

      But I have to admit that I am getting utterly sick of the avalanche of anti-Catholicism. I welcome criticism based on fact, and there is plenty of scope for that, rather than the majority of hate/fear/ridicule/patronisation I have seen towards Catholics today. Perhaps it’s just the scale of it, rather than the nature of it being any different than usual, but what a missed opportunity to lay down a conversation.

      PS - Twitter was thinking of you today damon. Tweets have been collated here for you.

    20. damon — on 17th September, 2010 at 5:34 am  

      PS – Twitter was thinking of you today damon.

      It’s not got much to do with me. The link may have a good point about their headings and titles of articles - but to call them contrarian is a bit daft without any explaination for using that word.
      Although I understand that they will annoy some people because they knock the more daft aspects of the left.

    21. earwicga — on 17th September, 2010 at 10:13 am  

      You are welcome Ravi. You might also like this from the FT on Newman and Benedict: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/0e6f301c-baea-11df-9e1d-00144feab49a.html



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