Snakes on a plane


by Sunny
14th February, 2007 at 2:02 pm    

As it’s Valentines day today and the atmosphere is supposed to be all romantic and cuddly, I thought of finding some pictures of teddy bears and chocolates for our readers. To set the mood you know.

Actually I didn’t. I saw this story and thought it would be more relevant: Is sex on a plane legal? Surely that is the big question? It’s one of those trivial questions you need to know and Valentines day seems the apt time to ask it. No? Ok maybe that’s just me then.


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  1. Tim Worstall — on 14th February, 2007 at 2:12 pm  

    Is sex in public legal? No? Well then.

    Another way of looking at it is to point to the fact that the plane is the property of the airline. There place, their decision (although I’m aware that does not impact upon the legality or not).

  2. Leon — on 14th February, 2007 at 2:33 pm  

    Is sex in public legal? No? Well then.

    And over international waters who’s law counts?

  3. Sunny — on 14th February, 2007 at 3:17 pm  

    Does having sex in a toilet constitute as public? And can they ‘prove’ you had sex inside the toilet?

  4. Billy — on 14th February, 2007 at 3:30 pm  

    “And can they ‘prove’ you had sex inside the toilet?”

    Discharge?

    Condoms?

  5. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 3:46 pm  

    Over international waters surely it depends on the jurisdiction dealing with the airline? So KLM, probably safe but Saudi Arabian Airlines probably less so.

    Still, it would need to be a big toilet to fit in all the witnesses they apparently need.

  6. Captain_Savaho — on 14th February, 2007 at 3:50 pm  

    snakes on a plane was a cool film..

  7. ZinZin — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:25 pm  

    Does having sex in a toilet constitute as public?

    Not if you lock the door.

  8. Owen Blacker — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:33 pm  

    Sex in public isn’t illegal unless someone makes a complaint; that’s pretty much the point of the article. (So you can have sex in public, so long as noone sees and is offended.)

    And there are four potential jurisdictions: where you flew from, where you’re flying to, where you’re flying over and where the plane is registered. I’m so glad I’m not a lawyer ;o)

  9. sonia — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:39 pm  

    Quite! I saw that article as well..

    Happy Valentine’s everyone – what’s the world upto?

  10. sonia — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:50 pm  

    Of course if it is illegal surely that only serves to make it more exciting right?

  11. Owen Blacker — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:56 pm  

    Little Black Sambo: “If it is a public lavatory it is legal for shirtlifters.”

    Not since the Sexual Offences Act 2003. Indeed, it was *more* legal before then. Now sex in public is fine, but sex in a public lavatory isn’t; a bit of a double-standard and the opposite intention from the Bill as introduced.

    And, it must be said, when did you last read about a straight couple being prosecuted for consensual sex? The offence of “gross indecency” was a male–male only offence; you heterosexuals never needed to worry about having your name, address and photo printed on the front page of the local newspaper when convicted of what is (in the scheme of things) a relatively minor crime.

    I’m not advocating people having sex in places where it would cause a public nuisance, but it’s never been “legal for shirtlifters”, just poorly policed (for a variety of reasons, some of which make quite good sense, but that’s definitely another argument entirely)

  12. Tim Worstall — on 14th February, 2007 at 4:56 pm  

    I believe that on US planes it’s US law that applies. That extra-territoriality thing again.

  13. Anas — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:01 pm  

    It would have been funnier if you’d called this thread Trouser Snakes on a Plane.

  14. Tim Ireland — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:34 pm  

    Because lesbians never have sex on aircraft.

    /pedant

  15. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:42 pm  

    Speaking of planes, anyone see this footage?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/mos/skydiver.html?in_article_id=435694&in_page_id=1990&in_a_source=

    (Please, how do you do that thing where links just comes out as ‘this’? Is there a site which explains all that html stuff to morons?)

  16. Anas — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:47 pm  

    writing that will be underlined

    Without the spaces between the

  17. Anas — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:48 pm  

    OOps let me try that again,

    [a href="www.yoururl.com"] some writing [/a]

    But with angular brackets instead of square ones.

  18. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 5:56 pm  

    Anas,

    Thanks for trying, but I said to morons. I didn’t understand any of that.

  19. Vikrant — on 14th February, 2007 at 6:10 pm  

    but Saudi Arabian Airlines probably less so.

    If anybody has been on a flight out of KSA they’d know what i’m talking about. As soon as the plane takes off from KSA, soil, almost every Arab chick on the flight strips her burqa off to reveal skimpiest of outfits that’d give Celina Jaitley a complex!

  20. Sid — on 14th February, 2007 at 6:10 pm  

    Like this:

    <a href=”URL”>this<a>

    where:
    URL = your web page path
    “this” = any text that shows up in the link

  21. Sid — on 14th February, 2007 at 6:12 pm  

    oops, need to close the tag.

    More like this:

    <a href=”URL”>this</a>

    where:
    URL = your web page path
    “this” = any text that shows up in the link

  22. Vikrant — on 14th February, 2007 at 6:12 pm  

    Correfting Sid:

    this

    where:
    URL = your web page path
    “this” = any text that shows up in the link

    well Sid the tag

  23. Leon — on 14th February, 2007 at 6:51 pm  

    It would have been funnier if you’d called this thread Trouser Snakes on a Plane.

    Oh dear and there was me enjoying the almost subtlety of the title as it is and along comes some one to make it beyond obvious…

  24. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:16 pm  

    So this random link should come out as random

  25. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:18 pm  

    Well, it’s blue but it doesn’t work. I am too thick to live.

  26. Sid — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:23 pm  

    it doesn’t work because you missed out the href=”URL” attribute inside the first <a> tag.

    gosh this is an interesting thread.

  27. Vladimir — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:39 pm  
  28. Vladimir — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:41 pm  

    Yay it works! Thanks Sid and Vikrant, I been wanting to know for some time.

  29. Clairwil — on 14th February, 2007 at 7:45 pm  

    Don,
    To my eternal shame I’m in the same boat. Though I have been experimenting. I was trying to post a link to site I’ve been learning bits off but for some reason I’m not allowed to!

    The product of a wasted afternoon and the proper link are here

    http://clairwilsparebits.blogspot.com/2007/02/pointless-html-fannying-for-idiots.html#links

    As you will see I have made the effort to learn how to do all sorts of annoying stuff with text but can’t to a proper bloody link without blogger.

  30. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 8:12 pm  

    ‘you missed out the href=”URL” attribute ‘

    Aaaaargh

    I shall be sending future comments by cleft stick.

  31. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 8:38 pm  

    Clairwil,

    Stop that, that way madness lies.

  32. Vikrant — on 14th February, 2007 at 8:48 pm  

    HTML is such a passe, even for 6 yr olds.

  33. Vikrant — on 14th February, 2007 at 8:55 pm  
  34. Vikrant — on 14th February, 2007 at 8:56 pm  

    Clairwil your blog entry nearly gave me an epileptic fit.

    Don check out:
    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/HTML_Programming/Hyperlinks

  35. Don — on 14th February, 2007 at 9:21 pm  

    Vik,
    Thanks, that looks possible.

  36. Leon — on 14th February, 2007 at 9:25 pm  

    Hmmm Valentines Day and what do the picklers do? They turn into a bunch of geeks! How would’ve thunk it…? :D

  37. Leon — on 14th February, 2007 at 10:01 pm  

    Talking of geekery, Sunny is this yours:

    http://www.sunnyhundal.com/

  38. Sahil — on 15th February, 2007 at 12:45 am  

    ^^ Oh that’s funny! By any chance Leon, were you secretly geeking away and creating a dorky page for Sunny this afternoon ;)

  39. Leon — on 15th February, 2007 at 1:06 am  

    Er! I erm fixed the vandalism on his wiki entry…I never knew anyone took any bloody notice of me!

    *dons secret spy hat and coat*

    I’ll be more careful in future though…:D

  40. sonia — on 15th February, 2007 at 10:28 am  

    vikrant – no. 19 – i hear you!

    :-) yep it’s a good disguise

  41. sabinaahmed — on 15th February, 2007 at 10:28 am  

    Hi Sunny and all you knowledgeable Picklrs

    Is there something wrong with the Asians In Media page? Am unable to log onto it, even stored links in my 2favorate places2 dont work. Am getting a message to say that address is not avaiable?

    Is there a big change going on or is it just my incompetence? Please enlighten!

  42. Chairwoman — on 15th February, 2007 at 10:39 am  

    Hi Sonia – I just tried and got a ‘Server not available’ message.

  43. Tasneem Khalil — on 15th February, 2007 at 1:24 pm  

    Does having sex in a toilet constitute as public? Not if you lock the door.

    Even if you lock the door, having sex in a public toilet can be considered public. And I don’t see anything wrong with that. Looking forward to join the club :-)

  44. sonia — on 15th February, 2007 at 1:42 pm  

    hey tasneem :-)

    i have to say that i don’t think people would be so keen to ‘join the club’ unless there was something slightly shifty about it! personally i can say there is really no room inside an airplane cubicle to do anything much..it’s a pretty tight squeeze with two people.. ;-)

  45. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 2:09 pm  

    I’m smoked smack on a plane toilet. I had it hidden up my arse

    (insert pile high club gag here)

  46. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 2:12 pm  

    Are http://www.sunnyhundal.com and http://www.leon.com affiliated? It’s true. The geeks shall inherit the earth :-)

  47. sonia — on 15th February, 2007 at 2:15 pm  

    kismet :-)

  48. Leon — on 15th February, 2007 at 2:54 pm  

    Are http://www.sunnyhundal.com and http://www.leon.com affiliated? It’s true. The geeks shall inherit the earth

    Me thinks it’s time to sue someone…er soon as this illness stops and I um get some money. Leon.com has nothing to do with me (unfortunately!)…

  49. AsifB — on 15th February, 2007 at 3:15 pm  

    At last (Sonia (43): A basic practical observation about aircraft toilets. Its hard enough to get one person in there to ‘ swing a cat’ let alone two.

    Surely it says something though that there has been so much discussion about sex in toilets – when there are better places on any large but not full aircraft (cue cockpit gags etc.)

    In answer to Sunny’s original question though – of course its not illegal (Virgin Upper Class sells itself on its beds after all ) – but noise restrictions
    don’t help unless you’ve got everybody else plugged in to a few good movies.

  50. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:07 pm  

    Asif you silly. You can’t take a cat onto a plane. Or a dog. I’ll still never know how Tintin took Snowy to places like Tibet and stuff. My hero journalist lied to me

  51. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:09 pm  

    Also, if Tintin was such a hotshot journo, how come he always found out the news by reading the paper or listening the radio? Typical out to lunch on a blag skiver journo. He ruined me

  52. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:14 pm  

    Any artists out there? Let’s start a cartoon strip called Hundal in Blogosphere. Sahil & Anas could be the Thompson Twins, Jagdeep Captain Haddock, Rohin Professor Calculus, Chairwoman Bianca Castafiore and Rohin as Rastapopulous. The villains could include the evil Straw Man. I wanna be Snowy, yapping but cute and very frequently drunk on Haddock, sorry Jagdeep’s whisky.

    We could be millionaires

  53. sonia — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:14 pm  

    i can’t see what’s so exciting about it personally. seems to me it’s yet again one of those “oh you haven’t joined our exclusive club, my dear..?!” type things.
    and of course the ‘we musn’t do it’ naughtiness.

    let’s look at the nitty gritty :

    if you are with a regular partner – well you can wait till you land, i’m sure. unless you want to say you did it on a plane.

    if you meet some random stranger, well you can do as much sitting next to them as you can in the toilet – probably more – assuming it’s, dark, everyone else is asleep and you have blankets. or you could get their no. and arrange a hot date when you land. or if they’re going someplace else and you might never see them again – well that’s the only thing that makes some sense.
    if it’s about ‘illicit sex’ in general – hell it’s hardly as if planes are the only place that happens!! so where the fascination with the having sex/sexual activity on a plane i can’t really tell. as it is there are too many old slobbering men on flights who seem to want a bit of groping here and there – they must be really desperate is all i can think.

  54. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:15 pm  

    Soory AMIR as rastapopulous

    I’m obsessed with Rohin

    (am I right in thinking no one cares about this?)

  55. Sid — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:22 pm  

    Sonia’s 43?

  56. AsifB — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:25 pm  

    Kismet (49) ‘You can’t take a cat onto a plane. Or a dog.’

    Well, as John Lennon said “Everybody’s got something to hide except me and my monkey.”
    (aeroflot, noisy engine, 30 hour flight, we were a lot a thinner then…)

    no. 50 : Tintin is just another example of it not being what you know, but who you know. Woodward and Bernstein also relied on a covert Captain Codcake and albino dog informant team, but paranoia made them change the name of Deep Boat.
    used

  57. Chairwoman — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:25 pm  

    ‘Ahem’

    *clears throat*

    ‘la la la la lalalala’

  58. Chairwoman — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:27 pm  

    Please don’t put this down to advancing years, but all I have ever wanted on a plane is a valium, a large brandy and benedictine, and a safe landing.

  59. Chairwoman — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:28 pm  

    Kismet – please imagine me singing my comments from now on.

  60. justforfun — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:43 pm  

    Kismet – I have all the Tintin comics – Rs18 each when I bought them 30 years ago. I shall have to dig them out.

    Justforfun

  61. sonia — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:44 pm  

    some airlines used to let you take your pet with you on the flight itself – i.e. not locked away in the hold. air france did in the old days – dunno about now..

  62. Anas — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:50 pm  

    Lol, Kismet. You’re spot on, Jagdeep would be an excellent Captain Haddock. Just like CH, Jagdeep manages to come up with the most wonderful and arcane insults. Like for example, monomaniac.

  63. ZinZin — on 15th February, 2007 at 4:59 pm  

    TinTin.
    His hairstyle was imitated by Cameron Diaz in Theres something about Mary.

    Anas, I can just picture Jagdeep exclaiming “Blistering Barnacles”.

  64. Anas — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:00 pm  

    ZinZin, is your name in tribute to TinTin?

  65. Anas — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:03 pm  

    Sid could be Nestor the Butler.

  66. TinTin — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:10 pm  

    Funny that you ask as that is what Jihad and the city have christened myself. Maybe I should take the hint.

    No. My nom de plume is taken from Zinedine Zidane. Fuck it, I’m changing it.

  67. Anas — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:14 pm  

    Like Bob Dollally says, in an A-Z list of all the great world football players, Zidane would come near the bottom.

  68. Sid — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:20 pm  

    Nestor Bastard? This is the name I should have been born with.

  69. Kismet Hardy — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:36 pm  

    ZinZin changed your name to TinTin cos I put the idea into your head? Wow my magical powers. Wonder if Sunny ‘David Cameron reads my articles, Guardian’s best blogger in the world award winner’ Hundal might change his to Ego the Giant :-)

  70. Don — on 15th February, 2007 at 5:41 pm  

    Sonia #52

    Could be a subconcious awareness that death is a mischance away on a plane. That raises the libido considerably.

    Or maybe a sense that normal rules don’t apply when you are not actually on the planet?

    Trains are very arousing. My daughter was almost given the middle name ‘Langkawi’, after the Express.

  71. sonia — on 16th February, 2007 at 11:12 am  

    don – :-) that makes some sense.

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