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    London bomber’s video airs on Al-Jazeera, someone tell B’ham mosque!


    by Sunny
    2nd September, 2005 at 2:19 am    

    Al-Jazeera has aired a tape from one of the suicide bombers behind the 7th July attacks. A clearly brainwashed Mohammad Sidique Khan reckons he was a “soldier” and was inspired by Osama Bin Laden. The 30 year old came from Dewsbury in West Yorkshire and was the one who blew himself up at Edgware Road station - killing 6 people and injuring 120.

    Our words are dead until we give them life with our blood. I and thousands like me have forsaken everything for what we believe.

    Until we feel security, you will be our targets. Until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight. We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.

    BBC has the story and you can watch the video there too. CNN has the full text of the video.

    There isn’t a lot to say here other than this was bound to turn up sooner or later. MCB spokesperson Inayat Bunglawala said it was “obscene” to suggest justice for the people of Iraq could be obtained by committing an act of injustice against the people of London.

    There is never an excuse for acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. However, this tape does serve to confirm that the war in Iraq has indeed led to the radicalisation amongst a section of Muslim youth.

    What about those leaflets by Hizb ut-Tahrir? Do they not lead to more radicalisation?

    The best comment comes from grieving boyfriend of Neetu Jain (killed in the blasts), a Muslim guy called Gous Ali, who says “I just want to go on national television myself and expose their lies. It’s all brainwashing by some wacko scholar who believes his own version of the Koran and has made it his own battle.” Join the queue brother.

    The big question now is, who is going to give the bad news to Dr Mohammed Naseem? The chairman of Birmingham’s Central Mosque declared on 26th July that there was nothing to prove that Muslims carried out bomb attacks in London on July 7 and 21. He also said Al-Qaeda didn’t exist.

    Maybe someone can also tell Al-Qaeda’s Ayman al-Zawahri, who’s video came on straight after Sidique Khan’s - claiming responsibility for 7/7 and threatening new attacks.

    Update: A reader emails in to alert us that al-Zawahri had a previous stint on Channel 4!
    Ayman al-Zawahri on Channel 4

    Another update: Dr Mohammed Naseem was grilled on the BBC Asian Network on Friday about his comments. Unsurprisingly, he tried to wiggle out of it by saying that the video must have been doctored. You can listen to the interview from here, fast-forward by 1hr 47 min.


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    1. Anne — on 2nd September, 2005 at 9:15 am  

      This is a very welcome new blog, which I’m going to enjoy reading. So please keep posting.

    2. Al-Hack — on 2nd September, 2005 at 4:25 pm  

      I hope this puts a rest to all those daft conspiracy theories that people keep putting out… but then I doubt it. People want to believe anything these days.

    3. rizwand — on 2nd September, 2005 at 4:48 pm  

      Many in the muslim community feel a sense of victimisation. This helps to explain why people enter a state of denial following an event such as the London bombings, and why they are more susceptible to less rational theories and explanations.

      The government now has to deal with a harsh truth: Adopting a foreign policy of aggressive engagement is always going to heighten the risk of the (perceived) oppressed bringing trouble to our door step.

      This is the price we pay, along with lives lost in the battelfield and actual financial costs, these have to be weighed against the benefits (eg: liberating other countries, counteracting greater long-term threats etc).

      In this case, the UK’s involvement in recent conflicts abroad did not have clear approval of the populus. Nevertheless, it is now us who paying the price.

    4. Edward — on 2nd September, 2005 at 5:15 pm  

      I find it odd how, when travelling home on the train and observing my fellow commuters, travellers will actually vacate a carriage - even leaving their prized possession of a seat - if a man of obviously Muslim appearence gets onto the carriage.

      It seems that a certain section of society cannot absorb the fact that the bombings are not a reflection of the views held by the Muslim community as a whole.

      And I think this may explain a great deal about the sense of alienation and abandonment that I understand young Muslim males often feel in the UK.

      Some amongst us - not everyone, but enough of us - are too quick to shut our minds to other cultures, and other ways of life, and too quick to pin collective blame for atrocity on a section of society which is seen as “alien”.

      No wonder a divide is perceived to exist.

    5. Paul — on 2nd September, 2005 at 5:18 pm  

      rizwand

      I believe that Muslims have to face up to a harsh truth - that their religion has been hijacked by nihilistic fascists - and they need to work to expunge them from the religion because all these excuses for the attack are just excuses - and we should be wary of shifting the blame for ‘consequences’ onto the government because this is the logic of the terrorists themselves - and this ideology is self sustained, self perpetuating and self directing.

      If a Nazi planted a bomb inside a mosque we should never seek to blame the government for ‘inciting’ working class white men by failing to crack down on immigrants or else to ‘face the consequences’

      Shahid Malik MP said it perfectly in the Telegraph today:

      “Khan accuses ‘Westerners’ of being responsible for the London bombings but we must be clear that the only people responsible for these heinous acts were him and his twisted associates.

      Mr Malik also criticised British Muslims who maintained that Khan and his accomplices were not responsible for the July 7 bombings due to “rampant conspiracy theories within the community”.

      He said: “Since the bombings far too many Muslims have been living in a state of denial but now they’ve heard it from the horse’s mouth and must come to terms with the undoubted challenge that this presents.

      “We must not allow the evil few to hijack issues such as Palestine or Kashmir or Iraq. Defending just causes with evil acts serves only to malign those causes.

      “The large scale indiscriminate killing of innocents can never be a viable solution and those that believe otherwise must know that they will feel the full brunt of the law in this country.”

    6. rizwand — on 2nd September, 2005 at 5:48 pm  

      paul

      I agree that the “crazies” need to be expunged and do not blame the government outright for what is happening. No doubt Al Qaeda and other such organisations have targetted Western democracies for a long time and will continue to do so. However, the UK government’s actions in Afghanistan and Iraq surely increased the risk that the UK would move us higher up on the hit-list than more neutral countries.

    7. StrangelyPsychedelique — on 2nd September, 2005 at 6:05 pm  

      His use of the biro is interesting…and jeeez couldnt they have arranged for better lighting? You get better image quality coming out of the those afghan Al Q videos!

    8. Sunny — on 3rd September, 2005 at 4:31 am  

      We can’t keep blaming Iraq and Afghanistan because nearly 2 million people marched against the war and most of them were not Muslim. There is anger against this government’s illegal and baseless expeditions in other countries, but rarely does that anger turn to murder.

      The question is - how does that anger turn to murder? Who helps incite it and help those people become mass-murder terrorists? Why not just burn yourself in public like many Tibetans have done or even Indian students? Why do you have to take innocent lives with you? That ideology has to be dealt with, and we can’t just blame the war for it.

    9. StrangelyPsychedelique — on 3rd September, 2005 at 9:17 am  

      Too many people keep focusing on the ‘war in Iraq’. I would like to correct this assumption and point out (as Red Ken did quite splendidly) that there has been WESTERN/CAPITALIST interference for decades (if not centuries) in [Arab] lands. DuH.

      Iraq was sort of a tipping point. As was Chezhnya (sp), Bosnia, Sept 11th etc.
      In the terrorists eyes just becuase you were against the Iraq War doesnt clear you of “blame”.
      I wish people would stop being so confused about why theyre being targeted. Even if you did say “I hate bush, I voted Respect, I marched for peace etc” they’ll still probably shrug and kill you. Why?

      Because you live in a society and a culture they despise. No theyre not jealous - they just hate you - you’re all part of a ‘system’ and even if you march for 10 hours you’re still not sitting in a cave and playing religious zealot. Anyone who aint doin’ that is as valid a target as the next.

      Oh and in the terrorist’s eyes ‘marching peacefully’ is sorta pointless. You cant be against the warmongers and be peaceful can you? You must take up arms - lead the revolution - the great struggle. Anything less and you deserve to die. Zat is how zi retards think.

    10. Paul — on 3rd September, 2005 at 2:11 pm  

      rizwand

      I see your comments as basically an extension of the justifiers and apologists argument for the bombers - it also echoes what Mohammad Siddique Khan says in the video - the people are to blame for the actions of the government (because they are one in this logic) - well if the government must realise the country is at risk from suicide bombing by psychopathic Jihadis - what of it? Are you seriously suggesting that the government is culpable for these bombs? If a racist smashes a brick over your head in ‘revenge’ for Muslim oppressions of non Muslims and Islamic violence and terrorism, should the government factor the potential for such acts into its programme?

      You are on very sticky and tendentious ground - some people still need to wake up it would seem.

    11. Kulvinder — on 3rd September, 2005 at 3:54 pm  

      Although Al-Queda have claimed responsibility for this act, i doubt they had any real ability to direct people on the ground. The IRA and other politically motivated terrorist organisations had and still have a manifesto that outlines their aims in fairly significant detail. Any young recruits fight for a cause that is ‘understood.’ AQ (especially in the west) operates as a function of social dissatisfaction rather than political motivation.

      The positive aspects of this situation is that i disagree with anyone who says this problem will take ~30 years to solve (as with the IRA). There is no constant political imperative to continue the bombing, the bombs will come when people are disaffected (as with the Iraq war), but the issues that lead to dissatisfaction can be dealt with. The negative aspects is the very lack of a meaningful political umbrella, the IRA weren’t more ‘humane’ than AQ their lack of similar attacks was designed to avoid political fallout (in america especially) and was not because they were benevolent to the british people. AQ is not constrained by such matters, therefore their attacks though less frequent can be far more deadly.

    12. jamal — on 3rd September, 2005 at 8:47 pm  

      Why tell B’ham mosque. Previously there was no strong unequivical evidence. As we have seen by police reports regarding the brazilian, they can be misleading. now this video is the evidence that at least this guy took part in the bombings, though there is doubt as to whether he is actually linked to Al-qieda as the tape has been reported to have maybe been edited.

      And since sunny has linked this topic to his favourite pet hate Hizb ut-Tahri, i think there are many commenters here that first need to read this article by the MCB http://www.mcb.org.uk/presstext.php?ann_id=157

      The question is not how does that anger turn to murder?, it is why?, and what conditions allow it to ferment?

    13. rizwand — on 4th September, 2005 at 1:36 pm  

      sunny, paul

      I am 100% against what has happened and believe it is against the teachings of islam. There is no valid justification and I do not blame the government.

      I don’t understand how what I have said sides me with the apologists or justifiers..indeed I perceive myself to be at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nevertheless I stand by my words with no sense of contradiction.

      If a racist smashed a brick over my head, (after I recovered) I would not seek to lay blame with the government, because the causality is not clear.

      However, what is more apparant is how a foreign policy of aggressive engagement is being used (in a manipulative way of course) to twist the hearts and minds on young men and convert them to becoming suicide bombers. We have been meddling in the Middle East and elsewhere for decades, but maybe we have only now hit some kind of tipping point (as Strangely says).

      I do not “blame” Iraq and Afghanistan outright for what happened, and I do not agree with it, but at the end of the day, surely it is a harsh reality that our actions abroad played an indirect role in the attacks.

      This is subtle point..actually, it isn’t… I am not shifting blame to the government for what happened, but I do believe the government played a role in heightening the risk of such activity.

      What annoys me is that we are in democracy and I (and so many others) didn’t agree with the UK government’s decisions in Iraq and so did not want to “purchase” the additional risk. If I agreed with our foreign policy I would also be happy with the additional risks that is the natural consequence. Surely, this is very different to saying the government is culpable ?

      Nothing is black and white.

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